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Honda drives toward home solar hydrogen refueling

Reuters -- Coming not so soon and probably not to a house near you is the home solar hydrogen refueling station -- Honda Motor Co's latest idea in its drive to make hydrogen the fuel of choice for zero emission cars.

The Japanese auto giant believes hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles offer the best long-term alternative to fossil fuels and the company showed on Friday a refueling breakthrough that it says points to a home version down the road.

Most major automakers have spent billions of dollars in researching hydrogen-powered fuel cells, tempted by the idea of a car that uses no gasoline and emits only water vapor. But Honda is widely seen as the hydrogen leader, while others like General Motors put more effort into battery-powered electric vehicles like the upcoming Volt.

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Submitted Mar 12, 2010 By: Mudsprings

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traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,330 Points:784,175 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:17:23 PM Ignore traindude Report Abuse bring 'em both. just like Beta & VHS time will tell
wiwhite87 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,033 Points:119,190 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:15:07 PM Ignore wiwhite87 Report Abuse Electric splitting of hydrogen is likely the way of the future, but it may be distant before it's economical in comparison to other fuels. I'm glad to see that Honda is still pursuing it, even if they admit it's not economic currently. Because of forethought like this, they'll probably lure buyers in. I know I'm most tempted by their technological advances compared to most makers.
CycleRyder Rookie Author Atlanta Posts:66 Points:89,840 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:06:37 PM Ignore CycleRyder Report Abuse I can see in the near future a Hydrogen powered Honda VTX1300 motorcycle. Also a Honda Lawn mower and I can also see a Hydrogen powered Honda Jet.
sillywagon Champion Author New York Posts:5,253 Points:528,570 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:06:30 PM Ignore sillywagon Report Abuse Isn't energy lost in the process of making Hydrogen? Wouldn't it be better just to use an electric car? There will be advances in both electric vehicles and hydrogen in the next few decades. but I still don't see a solution to the energy loss in making Hydrogen. I see advances in batteries in the near future, I read the articles on GasBuddy about battery advances. Oh, and don't forget Liquid Natural Gas as a fuel. [Edited by: sillywagon at 3/12/2010 11:07:32 PM EST]
ILANGE9 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,534 Points:623,505 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:06:26 PM Ignore ILANGE9 Report Abuse More alternatives but nothing feasible for the consumer.
CycleRyder Rookie Author Atlanta Posts:66 Points:89,840 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:03:25 PM Ignore CycleRyder Report Abuse I can see the recalls coming
CycleRyder Rookie Author Atlanta Posts:66 Points:89,840 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:02:49 PM Ignore CycleRyder Report Abuse I can see the recalls coming
CycleRyder Rookie Author Atlanta Posts:66 Points:89,840 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:02:15 PM Ignore CycleRyder Report Abuse I can see the recalls coming
CycleRyder Rookie Author Atlanta Posts:66 Points:89,840 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:01:28 PM Ignore CycleRyder Report Abuse I can see the recalls coming
ghamm45 Veteran Author Madison Posts:263 Points:100,630 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 11:00:07 PM Ignore ghamm45 Report Abuse Good thought OGW! That is what we really need. Our own generating units to cut out the middlemen, speculators and the "big oil-type boys" who prey on us when we need energy the most. We deserve better than what we have been getting from our representatives in congress.
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,158 Points:536,585 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:59:51 PM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse Well, what is the hold-up.
uptherefiners Champion Author Chicago Posts:1,162 Points:273,875 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:53:24 PM Ignore uptherefiners Report Abuse you're welcome to move to japan
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,591 Points:797,340 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:49:13 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse I'm not surprised that Honda is a leader and GM goes down the wrong road again Will we have to bail thim out again?
OGW Champion Author London Posts:1,351 Points:670,865 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:48:25 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Why not build the solar charging station into the car so you will always have your recharge with you.
DABEE1073 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,988 Points:598,510 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:48:23 PM Ignore DABEE1073 Report Abuse HYDROGEN-POWERED FUEL CELLS ARE A MUCH BETTER IDEA THAN ELECTRIC.
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:1,662 Points:1,263,210 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:46:06 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse Probably cost you an arm and a leg to buy one,I guess will be driving in outer space.
pitamon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:2,477 Points:1,214,400 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:43:45 PM Ignore pitamon Report Abuse So when will I be able to buy it?
Jeff4U Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,293 Points:883,055 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:34:48 PM Ignore Jeff4U Report Abuse More talk but yet no action.
mrbee All-Star Author Little Rock Posts:568 Points:1,527,660 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:31:53 PM Ignore mrbee Report Abuse Give me gasoline!
OGW Champion Author London Posts:1,351 Points:670,865 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:31:16 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Big oil will probably buy them out if it actually works. They don't want you doing your refueling at home even if it is hydrogen.
smoketown Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:2,880 Points:597,260 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:30:03 PM Ignore smoketown Report Abuse Sneakers55 ..........Make your own comments, always comments on others
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,136 Points:721,110 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:28:55 PM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse Got to check all possible sources.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:32,110 Points:1,297,295 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:22:30 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse epf wrote: >Well its about time, finally something not dependant >upon fossil fuels. Where did you get the hydrogen in the first place? That stuff is so locked up in nature that you're better off sticking with fossil fuels.
JimTee All-Star Author Tampa Posts:909 Points:789,115 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:18:52 PM Ignore JimTee Report Abuse It's still years away. We need to keep conserving.
lightbulbman2008 Champion Author Worcester Posts:43,251 Points:650,410 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:18:26 PM Ignore lightbulbman2008 Report Abuse sorry,i will stick with gasoline.!!!!
epf Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,592 Points:925,035 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:17:51 PM Ignore epf Report Abuse Well its about time, finally something not dependant upon fossil fuels.
AcuraTSX Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,166 Points:1,265,870 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:16:12 PM Ignore AcuraTSX Report Abuse And where is GM or Fiat?
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:18,317 Points:1,368,110 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 10:09:31 PM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Load the roof with solar panels and produce your own home grown hydrogen from Honda, good enough for 30 miles. Or drive to the hydrogen refueling station for 240 miles of driving. There will be a number of alternative fuels available and hydrogen is just one of them. Gasoline will be around for a long time.
rollma2 All-Star Author Montreal Posts:655 Points:155,355 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:59:38 PM Ignore rollma2 Report Abuse well done
mplato Champion Author Columbia Posts:4,236 Points:1,015,685 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:52:11 PM Ignore mplato Report Abuse Not only does FORD Have A Better Idea, but so does HONDA! Now Hydrogen is one alternative I will go for.
USAFA82 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:4,877 Points:876,640 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:52:09 PM Ignore USAFA82 Report Abuse Sounds like Honda is on the right track. Too bad Detroit is still behind the times.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,761 Points:1,489,010 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:51:27 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse I read somewhere that the two most common elements in the universe were hydrogen and stupidity. Wonder if they were in that order ???
skynet Champion Author California Posts:2,343 Points:444,045 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:51:18 PM Ignore skynet Report Abuse Hard to believe you can generate that much energy. The avg home uses less energy than a car and if it takes tens of thousand to power a house, I would hate to see how much it'd cost to set up to produce enough energy to power 2 cars (avg household is 2 cars?).
beachbumCA Champion Author Riverside Posts:4,069 Points:767,500 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:48:27 PM Ignore beachbumCA Report Abuse Lets see if it is just talk.
cruisingtx Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,201 Points:528,570 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:45:43 PM Ignore cruisingtx Report Abuse more alternatives
PissedCanuck Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,827 Points:819,560 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:40:37 PM Ignore PissedCanuck Report Abuse There should be a mix of alternative fuels out there, not just one or two.
star_deceiver Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,001 Points:704,500 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:30:11 PM Ignore star_deceiver Report Abuse Well anything's possibel with the right amount of money!
packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:1,668 Points:304,330 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:24:28 PM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse I retire in two years, I sure love one of these Hydrogen Setup, free driving until the Road Tax man figure it out, I see black box with transponder reporting when pass freeway point and certain intersections, then the Road tax bill send monthly.
Bagtag All-Star Author Georgia Posts:928 Points:968,090 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:23:22 PM Ignore Bagtag Report Abuse I am sooo glad the Toyota salesman wouldn't negotiate on their Camrys last year. I jusy LOVE our new worry-free Honda Accord!
LilRedWagonIN Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,829 Points:606,080 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:21:41 PM Ignore LilRedWagonIN Report Abuse What a fantasy come true! Have relatively free cost of transportation. Fuel your own car in your own garage from your own solar powered Hydrogen generator! It seems it would put the middle eastern countries out of business, because it's the same sun shining down on me as it is on their oil soaked sands.
zeddieiv Champion Author Columbia Posts:3,572 Points:1,066,250 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:21:38 PM Ignore zeddieiv Report Abuse Good for Honda
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,699 Points:1,647,015 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:21:27 PM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse I'm still going to stay with my gas powered Ford.
NavyStore Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,687 Points:1,187,170 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:21:07 PM Ignore NavyStore Report Abuse Okay...
DellMan Champion Author Omaha Posts:1,917 Points:442,925 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:20:13 PM Ignore DellMan Report Abuse Way to go Honda. I would rather have a Honda than a UAW made auto. A friend of my wife bought a 2009 Chevy Pick Up truck and their bumper to bumper warranty is limited. He has transmission problems and then engine problems. He has paid out almost $2,000 in the last 30 days.
kidrockTX Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,854 Points:508,370 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:19:46 PM Ignore kidrockTX Report Abuse anymore the U.S. is always behind on everything before we was number one
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,796 Points:677,145 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:19:22 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse DIY kits are available for this....Ya, I plan to pick one up at Home Depot tomorrow..
jwduke1 Champion Author Iowa Posts:11,325 Points:2,221,385 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:15:45 PM Ignore jwduke1 Report Abuse Honda is going to be the car of the future
scrounger Champion Author Vancouver Posts:8,439 Points:2,242,590 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:13:56 PM Ignore scrounger Report Abuse DIY kits are available for this
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:5,975 Points:692,395 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:09:48 PM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse Well, about time! Plus, there's a lot of people already doing this! Some have been doing it for years. Don't wait on the automakers, don't wait on the politicians and don't wait on infrastructure to get it done.
gilfarm Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,147 Points:1,011,310 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:04:40 PM Ignore gilfarm Report Abuse Sounds great!
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:4,367 Points:311,800 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 9:04:17 PM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse If these researchers could get together & compare notes it's quite possible advances can be made quicker.
fltdoc Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,475 Points:604,940 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 12, 2010 8:55:00 PM Ignore fltdoc Report Abuse You have to start somewhere.