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Wind turbine noise is targeted

Boston.com -- State may require reviews of impact before construction

Days after state environmental officials found unacceptable noise levels from wind turbines in Falmouth, they are considering new regulations that would require the state to review potential noise issues before wind turbines are built in Massachusetts.

The state might also conduct sound studies in other communities, such as Fairhaven and Kingston, where residents, as in Falmouth, have complained about newly installed turbines, officials said.

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Submitted May 22, 2012 By: drpepperTX

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miiike572 All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:798 Points:528,415 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:30:51 PM Ignore miiike572 Report Abuse the greenies are never happy
darkknight1 Champion Author Winston-Salem Posts:4,355 Points:898,985 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:30:10 PM Ignore darkknight1 Report Abuse hmmmmm
car54BC Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,327 Points:1,258,505 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:28:36 PM Ignore car54BC Report Abuse There is always some group which isn't happy about something and still get lots of press.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,214 Points:874,980 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:26:48 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse wind energy has a lot of flaws, I don't know why this administration pursues it so avidly.
w9med Champion Author Gary Posts:1,128 Points:328,445 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:25:56 PM Ignore w9med Report Abuse Greenies are never happy
landsart Rookie Author San Diego Posts:17 Points:2,195 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:22:28 PM Ignore landsart Report Abuse Its ok out in the country or heavy Rural areas with low Population density
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Quick68 Champion Author Columbus Posts:8,267 Points:1,228,725 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:18:16 PM Ignore Quick68 Report Abuse Any one have an idea how to stop the noise?
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,596 Points:1,775,795 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:18:13 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Hey, MidNJ wrote... C.Carpets, Gee, it is interesting to know that you believe Ted Kennedy is still alive. ---- What part of the word "didn't" don't you understand? Kennedy DIDN'T want wind turbines in his neighborhood. Having trouble with the truth? Attacking the messenger while ignoring the message. It's not working.
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ericbcire Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,540 Points:1,270,635 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:14:52 PM Ignore ericbcire Report Abuse I'd hate to live near them.
aquarinut Champion Author British Columbia Posts:1,628 Points:437,605 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:13:10 PM Ignore aquarinut Report Abuse After working a full day and then driving for another six straight hours, I decided that a rest stop and short nap was in order. Made the mistake when I stopped at a wind farm. Noise was so bad that sleep was impossible, had to drive another 30 min to another pull out to get some sleep.
SUPERQUACK Champion Author Sacramento Posts:6,141 Points:1,914,755 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:12:33 PM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse Is this applicable to wind noise in fed capital. Dc
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,569 Points:1,175,050 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:10:41 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Aggietim, I see you are from Texas. Get close to a windmill sometime. I bet they make far less noise than an oil well pump.
DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,103 Points:1,394,770 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:10:06 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse Why don't they conduct a study on the economics of wind turbines. Then they will not want to build them.
dong1971 All-Star Author Vancouver Posts:660 Points:220,215 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 10:02:22 PM Ignore dong1971 Report Abuse GOOD TO KNOW.
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CQQKIE All-Star Author Illinois Posts:970 Points:349,065 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:59:06 PM Ignore CQQKIE Report Abuse Give me a brake.
Alaydown Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,131 Points:825,570 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:56:18 PM Ignore Alaydown Report Abuse The DemocRATS there have the "not in my backyard" (NIMBY) attitude towards them while they mandate them all over the country. Wind farms are expensive eyesores, and now they are considered noisy by the liberals in the state of Massachusetts. Federal and state governments have spent billions of taxpayer dollars subsidizing their construction and use across the country. But high maintenance costs, high rates of failure, and fluctuating weather conditions that affect energy production render wind turbines expensive and inefficient, which is why more than 14,000 of them have since been abandoned. Before government subsidies for the giant metals were cut or eliminated in many areas, wind farms were an energy boom business. But in the post-tax subsidy era, the costs of maintaining and operating wind turbines far outweighs the minimal power they generate in many areas, which has left a patchwork of wind turbine graveyards in many of the most popular wind farming areas of the US. If you want to read a good story about alternative energy, you should read the Los Angeles Times article on Larry Eisenberg trying to take the LA Community College district off the power grid by spending between 1 to 1.9 BILLION dollars (depending on the cost estimate) on solar, wind and geothermal power for nine college campuses that only spent 8 MILLION dollars in 2010 for power. The wind turbine they built on the college campus spins too slowly in average winds to power a 60-watt light bulb. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-build6-20110306,0,4909175.story
gbs1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,016 Points:745,525 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:55:58 PM Ignore gbs1 Report Abuse I wouldn't want one in my neighborhood but they have their place in the countryside.
aggietim Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:1,756 Points:695,575 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:55:57 PM Ignore aggietim Report Abuse I didn't realize they make noise. I guess I've never been close enough.
StraubeyKY Sophomore Author Kentucky Posts:230 Points:226,550 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:54:07 PM Ignore StraubeyKY Report Abuse Stop killing the birds!
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,569 Points:1,175,050 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:50:15 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse C.Carpets, Gee, it is interesting to know that you believe Ted Kennedy is still alive. ???????????????? What year (or decade) are you living in?
Moops8921 Sophomore Author Chicago Posts:118 Points:47,635 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:50:02 PM Ignore Moops8921 Report Abuse they'll get used to the noise.
C.Carpets All-Star Author Oakland Posts:551 Points:2,092,770 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:45:56 PM Ignore C.Carpets Report Abuse One of our biggest Liberals, Ted Kennedy, Didn't want them is his neighborhood either.
Johnnyrebell12 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,333 Points:1,424,775 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:44:15 PM Ignore Johnnyrebell12 Report Abuse Hey I agree with BCHS76 I think I'll complain to the state here in Mass because of the noise from I95 sometimes at night its so loud you don't dare sleep with your windows open. Did I say sleep I stand corrected you can't sleep. I'm about 2 miles at most from them Wind Turbine but only 3/10 of a mile from the highway. Think I can get them to close the highway from say 10 PM to 7 AM the next morning at least to 10 wheeler and motorcycles? LoL
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,585 Points:2,448,060 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:40:59 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse I hear a lot of "wind noises" coming from the Halls of Congress whenever it is in session...can they do SOUND STUDIES and stop that noise also ??
g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,556 Points:936,595 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:39:03 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse I'm not knowledgeable about the noise levels @ all.I need more education on it to be fair & clear on that topic.
SoutheastdannyB All-Star Author Grand Rapids Posts:590 Points:581,880 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:38:23 PM Ignore SoutheastdannyB Report Abuse try living next to a highway.
BCHS76 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,048 Points:857,410 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:35:48 PM Ignore BCHS76 Report Abuse They are complaining about 10 dB? I wonder how loud the traffic is on the interstate outside my window? Level at which sustained exposure may result in hearing loss: 90 - 95dB City Traffic (inside car): 85dB Guess I'd better call my state environmental official and tell them to move the interstate!
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BrucePen Champion Author Ontario Posts:6,621 Points:1,365,740 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:32:57 PM Ignore BrucePen Report Abuse Lots of opposition to wind power.
pickledude72 Champion Author California Posts:1,120 Points:837,845 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:30:06 PM Ignore pickledude72 Report Abuse They should target democratic Senator and Congress (*&presidential) noise
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,569 Points:1,175,050 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:28:46 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Nascar and MG Sputnik, I SAID; "Please read the article "Cape Wind foe Koch chips in for Romney" - which was previously posted on GasBuddy." - Among other things it says; "Boston Globe -- William I. Koch, the Osterville summer resident and fossil fuel magnate who helped bankroll the opposition to the Cape Wind energy project, has emerged as a key backer of Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, donating $2 million to Restore Our Future, the super PAC supporting Romney’s drive for the White House." ============================= Does it need to be said louder? The donations rank Koch’s privately held Oxbow Corp. third among companies that have donated the most to Restore Our Future, behind Perry Homes, the Texas home-building company, and Bain Capital, the Boston private equity firm that Romney cofounded in 1984."
LaVonneK Champion Author Iowa Posts:2,960 Points:629,675 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:28:32 PM Ignore LaVonneK Report Abuse Wow.
CatMan623 Champion Author Houston Posts:16,390 Points:2,346,945 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:28:26 PM Ignore CatMan623 Report Abuse Some folks are going to be unhappy regardless. Let them move to a cave.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,640 Points:3,498,605 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:25:25 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse The tree-huggers can fight the battle amongst themselves. There should also be an economic test included in determining whether or not any energy source is used. Presently gas/oil/diesel and coal are the far more economical choices.
ezone Champion Author Florida Posts:2,421 Points:949,360 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:22:46 PM Ignore ezone Report Abuse All these super-liberal greenies want all this alternative energy, just "Not in My Backyard".
adr47 Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:5,667 Points:1,178,750 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:21:36 PM Ignore adr47 Report Abuse Some people will bitch at anything.
200porter Champion Author Toronto Posts:2,080 Points:545,185 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:18:54 PM Ignore 200porter Report Abuse Can't they place these in an area where there aren't any people? Like the desert?
Waaitg All-Star Author Winnipeg Posts:765 Points:592,275 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:17:02 PM Ignore Waaitg Report Abuse Funny how fracking gets a green light, but wind turbines need to an Assessment. Can we say lobbying at work?
nascar1411 Champion Author Idaho Posts:1,913 Points:665,240 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:15:38 PM Ignore nascar1411 Report Abuse WHAT
MadTraveler Champion Author Idaho Posts:2,082 Points:572,100 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:13:18 PM Ignore MadTraveler Report Abuse This is one of our problems. We bend over when anybody has a complaint. Do you realize that is is only 2-3% of the people that will NEARLY ALWAYS FIND SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT? Duh - Tough - they make noise when they walk or run too. That's an idea - why don't we regulate people walking or running or whistling. Yea - and tax them for it too. Let's not KEEP BEING STUPID!
DrLyon Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,665 Points:1,214,755 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:12:26 PM Ignore DrLyon Report Abuse Wind always makes a noise....
ShabbyPA Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,815 Points:680,490 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:11:31 PM Ignore ShabbyPA Report Abuse Gotta bitch about something,So alittle noise,cheaper
mitchell6597 Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,462 Points:728,360 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: May 22, 2012 9:10:40 PM Ignore mitchell6597 Report Abuse Some folks run white noise machine, and loud music, and ride Harley's. Come on.