honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2012 10:27:29 AM
FuelPump: you're right about the reasons. The sad part is, there is enough regulation already on the books. But what good do laws do when they aren't enforced?
The consumer loses more than once. And these are so easily preventable situations, but Pig Oil appears to rather reap near record profits quarter after quarter than pay money to maintain the refineries.
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FuelPump

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 5:20:30 PM
As I said before, there are only two reasons a refinery fire can occur. Equipment failure, which means either inadequate maintenance, or poor design, perhaps in an attempt to save money and increase profits, or human error, meaning the people running the refinery are either inadequately trained, or are taking cost saving shorcuts. Either way the problem is the refinery's not the consumer, yet guess who gets to pay for the problem? Yep the consumer loses again. These constant 'accidents' at various refineries are the kind of events to lead to more regulation and government intervention. There is something very wrong with this whole picture!!!!
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J Eric

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 1:58:24 AM
Prices went up 12 cents a gallon over the past two days -- at USA Gasoline, which has its own refinery locally.
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strakey

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California
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 1:56:41 AM
this is pure bull***t, this fire has absolutely nothing to do with the gas prices!! this kind of logic is like charging your work a ton of money because you broke your foot at home!!! does this make any sense? NOPE!
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vcsuksu21

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 5:30:50 PM
ok
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txrojo2005

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Austin
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 3:09:44 PM
Prices have already has jumped.
[Edited by: txrojo2005 at 8/8/2012 3:10:19 PM EST]
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Alfied

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 12:13:57 PM
Up and down, up and down, makes the world go around.
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 12:12:00 PM
Another refinery fire? What's with all of the refinery fires lately? Does Big Oil have a plan in the background to keep prices extremely high? We don't know what Big Oil has up their sleeve, they can do what they want! When will all refineries have far superior fire suppression devices to smother the fire immediately with foam, etc.! Instead they let refineries burn, burn, burn. Here comes higher prices at the pump. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012
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bell05

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 12:09:57 PM
Yesterday news
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Gmsclecarparts

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 11:37:06 AM
"warn the public before it caught fire" LOL
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reeneedan

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 11:10:23 AM
this was a diesel unit that caught fire so why is gas going up. I would like to know how long they knew that this unit was leaking and why they did'nt warn the public before it caught fire since their fire department was there watching this unit for hours before it caught fire. I know this was an accident but its stuff like this that makes it look like big oil could care less about the people who live near their refineries and consumers who buy their product
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Fitwit

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 11:08:49 AM
I wish they wouldn't.
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AriesMMD

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 11:08:04 AM
up, down, up and up again, what else is new?
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ethanol_is_bad

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Boise
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 11:07:17 AM
CA, the state that keeps on giving...
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Double_Golden

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 11:05:49 AM
already see the price hike at the pump...
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LongPlay

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 11:00:22 AM
CA gets what it deserves!
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Black Wagon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:59:47 AM
Now they will have an excuse to raise prices all across the country.
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gasper

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Edmonton
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:59:40 AM
I wonder when they will get their act together and get things right.
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RockCity

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Denver
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:56:08 AM
You'd think the insurance arson investigators would have a convincing mo into these six week apart refinery fires, perhaps.
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tco9436

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:55:31 AM
Joke!
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SUSANCK

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:54:48 AM
Not good...
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TBecker1415

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:54:33 AM
ok
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RUNNINONEMPTYFL

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Florida
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:54:16 AM
Here we go again...
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Martillo

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:53:49 AM
Bad News.
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dickboyOC

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:53:32 AM
Gotta love it.
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SandeeC

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:53:06 AM
Any excuse to raise pump prices.
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belladog

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:52:55 AM
ok
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fcdriver

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:51:48 AM
one day we will find better alternatives then we wont worry about stuff like this
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9C1

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:50:52 AM
The oil companies will post record profits again.
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packards42

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Washington
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:50:48 AM
Everybody, get prepared for price increase.
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firechief

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New York
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:49:57 AM
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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BCM1

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:48:18 AM
The people need gas to get to work. The refinery fire didn't help consumers.
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DougtheEconMan

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Akron
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:48:14 AM
KEEP YOUR TANKS FULL! Early last week, I started posting my concern over how many refineries went down or were down for emergency repair. Four in the Midwest and a pipeline, over and above the scheduled shutdowns. Since then, a fire in Tulsa plant, and now in California. I will continue to post...KEEP YOUR TANKS AND GAS CANS FULL! We may be facing higher prices and possible spot shortages in the next 5 or 6 weeks.
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N4PIP

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Miami
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:47:33 AM
Though the fire is not good news at all, this will be used as an excuse to drive up prices across America. I think the oil companies should eat the expense, not consumers.
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computernut2008

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:47:22 AM
Sure it will ....GREED
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mikesr11

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New York City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:46:30 AM
WAS OBAMA IN CALIFORNIA PLAYING WITH MATCHES?
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FJCruiserCA

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California
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:46:05 AM
Yep :-(
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radstoy

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:45:52 AM
old news
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regasaz

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:44:20 AM
Same comment as yesterday when first posted.
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craigrm

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:44:17 AM
yikes
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smqua

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:43:02 AM
Seem to be quite a few refinery fires
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chyguy3

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Wyoming
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:42:33 AM
Just Calif???? I don't think so! It will be used as an excuse for everybody raising their price.
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bindox

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Chico
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:42:21 AM
Hey dlemma, if you don't what you're talking about, STFU. Not everyone in Cali is an Obummer lover. Some of us were not duped by the hype and fake birth certificate.
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OaklandInvaders

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:42:09 AM
Fire Contained that's good news. Now repair and revisions
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Amanstrom

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:41:59 AM
Yup, as if it wasn't high enough already.
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Bill100

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:41:23 AM
No sh_t!
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JXQW

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:40:24 AM
Doh!!
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kosciak

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:39:44 AM
old news
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bart_reed

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:39:39 AM
Stop the overseas exports to fill domestic supply.
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bridgerunner

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 8, 2012 10:38:55 AM
California, ya gotta love 'em.
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