car253

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 10:20:21 AM
What else are they lying about?
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 9:03:29 AM
I NEVER go by "stated" MPG. I ALWAYS look at the VENERABLE source, the CR magazine, for the real-life scoop ...
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yardslave

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 7:01:08 AM
Wow
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jcdakota

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:16:14 AM
Imitation is the best form of flattery. They learned it from Detroit (the best)!!!
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METEOR49

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:13:24 AM
every car maker inflates their m.p.g. have you ever tried to get the numbers they claim. make them pay .
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treehood

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:13:04 AM
damn, I was thinking about a Hyundai with a bias toward the gas mileage.
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mpg611

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:07:24 AM
I know the government is pissed about this....they dont like the competition of lying from Hyundai and Kia.
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boatfloyd

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:07:03 AM
I hope it cost the dealers allot.
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RetFireLT

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:06:12 AM
Ok.
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:05:21 AM
Like getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar.
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ricoblanco

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:04:02 AM
ok
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souly

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:03:16 AM
thanks for the post
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Dragnet

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:03:12 AM
Not surprising
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vibdata

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:02:16 AM
Don't Own One. Guess no refunds for me. All 2 cents per person.
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yonasb

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:02:13 AM
Ok
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billk44077

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:01:25 AM
Ok
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:01:25 AM
Of coarse
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carloco75

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2012 12:01:14 AM
Extremely Pathetic Agency
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tpguess

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:57:03 PM
Embarrassing Blunder.. my ass
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NedW

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:56:49 PM
Defund the EPA.
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gasmeup52

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:55:40 PM
I'm shocked.
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BREW9

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:53:26 PM
oops
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tco9436

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:51:06 PM
Uh OH
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Pozole

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Portland
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:48:54 PM
...everybody wants a leg up, truthful or not...
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Samo1961

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:48:38 PM
That's Not Cool!!
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:47:05 PM
That could be a problem.
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dumba55

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:47:04 PM
wow
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1Casey

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Albany
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:42:08 PM
No one cares, it's America, Where the people believe what ever you tell them,
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vrossi46

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:41:08 PM
don't they all?
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jpgilmor

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:39:51 PM
Interesting.
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WIWalt

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:39:00 PM
I think all the auto mfg overstate, not intentionally! They probably use gasoline on their testing not that ethanol crap they mandate us to use!
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jpgilmor

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Houston
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:38:23 PM
Interesting.
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VanIsleLes

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:36:44 PM
Whoopsie :)
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BoerneWatch

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:31:53 PM
How do you get an EPA mileage rating without the EPA providing it?
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serrog

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Nova Scotia
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:31:29 PM
I think they all do it. I have never had a vehicle that ever got the mileage they said I would.
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splitrman

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Victoria
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:26:45 PM
I call BS. MPG calculation is easy. Put a gallon of gas in the car. Drive it till it stops. See how far you get. Very basic test but you get the idea. Run a number of tests. Get the average. Should not be that hard to figure out.
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jdc17327

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:24:42 PM
tsk tsk! Buy American
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:24:40 PM
So when is the EPA going to fine the manufacturers of fuel gauges that aren't linear. Why should it be the case that when the needle reads 1/2 that it takes more fuel than 1/2 the capacity of the tank to refill the tank?
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DustyHorse

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:22:58 PM
Keep em honest.
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naspa

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:20:10 PM
Anybody who try to foul the regular people like this should be fine pd big time. Kia are jerks
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nightworker998

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:19:50 PM
And how many US cars are the same way?
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Yankee829

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:18:36 PM
Ok
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FlogNut

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:18:17 PM
What percentage of drivers actually get the mileage listed on those stickers? All the manufacturers overstate the mileage. These 2 were dumb enough to get caught.
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suzmar

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Texas
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:16:54 PM
The EPA's impossible goals make cheating more prevalent.
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hcivic

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:15:34 PM
big fine coming to Hundai
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aega7

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:15:26 PM
Ooops
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:10:35 PM
The last and only time we got a MPG sticker on the window was in 1985, never again... Stop the Corn water gas if you want better MPG...
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:10:29 PM
Those manufacturers should be hit with fines for overstating gas mileage.
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BrucePen

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:10:12 PM
Ooops! Somebody can't do the math!
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Mr_Bill_W

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:09:16 PM
What is the price of truth in advertising and mileage estimates? Inquiring minds want to know!
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