ItsMorph

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 1:39:07 AM
"Unfortunately they should have passed the Cash for Clunkers into a dedicated fund to back this technology research! In my eyes currently, this was a complete fiasco that truly has not helped the automotive makers here in the States enough to do it justice. Just sounds like another attempt to make our burdens become even more of a hardship on our backs and that of even our grandchildren when they get older! Obviously, we do not elect smart enough politicians to do the right thing."
What's obvious is that the politicians want more power for themselves.
OK, kids, it's time for some research.
"Conservation". Let's look that up, shall we?
"Conservative". Let's look that up, too, shall we?
"Conserve". Let's give that a go as well.
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 1:36:02 AM
This is a great beginning both for electric cars and for an improved electrical grid that could feed back off the batteries when needed. We need a new, cheaper electrical system. Giving up oil for higher priced electricity is not the answer. Conservation keeps your money in your pocket.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 1:02:01 AM
I think that was John McCain's idea?
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RovingOkie67

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:56:14 AM
Unfortunately they should have passed the Cash for Clunkers into a dedicated fund to back this technology research! In my eyes currently, this was a complete fiasco that truly has not helped the automotive makers here in the States enough to do it justice. Just sounds like another attempt to make our burdens become even more of a hardship on our backs and that of even our grandchildren when they get older! Obviously, we do not elect smart enough politicians to do the right thing.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:53:46 AM
I think that was John McCain's idea?
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IamWhoIam

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:52:57 AM
$3 billion here, $3 billion there and we might have some coins in our pockets. We have a lot of pockets.
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Bubba44612

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:50:45 AM
That is the same amount that they spent on Cash For Clunkers! What a coincident?
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LoneGuy

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:49:34 AM
Until the powers at be figure out how to get "clean" electricity and battery disposal this will do more harm than good but that is typical of grovernent interference. The coal fired power houses are going to charge the cars basically and the environmentalists will block oil, coal, nuclear, and even power lines from wind and solar. They want us to go back to walking or with horses what deficate. Peta will object to the harnessing of horses probably.
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ItsMorph

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:49:00 AM
That's great. We have so much extra money to go around, and all. Especially with Michigan at 15.2%+ unemployment. The government's done us all so well so far.
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puljujarvi

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:44:48 AM
Hopefully with this research they will be able to come up with long lasting car batteries that customers can afford to buy in the planned electric and hybrid cars of the future.
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goldseeker

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:42:09 AM
A good idea. Maybe. But definitely a pork project.
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PetroScopper

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Houston
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:31:07 AM
I think this is a great idea!! If used properly, this could make a huge difference in what our future transportation looks like. Plus, we're always one or two steps behind Japan and we need to do better.
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goodbuy

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:28:04 AM
Three BILLION seems like a lot of research. I am thinking 3 million in research and the rest in wages.
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camel1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:24:13 AM
Used for the right research it will be of great help
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:23:51 AM
time will tell if it was a good move, it sounds good, but so much money always seems to get sidetracked !!
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eddyp94

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:22:45 AM
this money could be used for better things...
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bad_sailor

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London
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:17:55 AM
Even research gets taxpayer bail-out funds.
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must87searcher

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:14:52 AM
It could be usefull having some this progream work. If it did, there would be a possibility to sell more autos in thsi nation, and not relie on foreigners to do dot his job. If it is done like that, we can just hope that we will looos more money and close businesses or loose them.
Taht is something a lot of people dont want!!
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Blue_Cruzer

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:11:11 AM
This administration is spending our money like it grows on trees.
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jay4

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:10:50 AM
This stands in the historical tradition of other federal support for transportation: ships, canals, trains, vehicles, aircraft, etc.
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biza4u

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New Haven
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:10:25 AM
Good step in the right direction
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:07:01 AM
How about $3 billion for guaranteed student loans. It might just solve two problems rather than one. It would also reduce the national debt as the loans are paid back as students graduate and, hopefully, get good high-paying jobs.
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CobraLeader

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:06:20 AM
another tax payer boondagle
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bigreddwg

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 12:04:59 AM
about da** time - since the big 3 or now 2.5 if you count bankrupt chrysler the problem is that detroit refused to build fuel efficient cars which makes you think they were getting a kickback from BIG OIL - HMMMM sounds about right!!
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greatscot08

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2009 11:57:23 PM
We shall see...... this makes more sense than alot of other programs The House has come up with of late.....
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defcon7

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2009 11:45:25 PM
It can't hurt.When they make a battery to power your home and vehicles that recharges completely by the sun and wind with no more payments to electric grid then I'll be impressed! But until then investing in new battery research can't hurt! Thanks, defcon7
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2009 11:38:33 PM
I think that was John McCain's idea?
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