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Natural Gas Cars: Controversy Remains

My Perfect Automobile -- With no flashy government programs to support them, and with little marketing, natural gas cars are already twice as common on American roads as are plug-in hybrids. Long a source of controversy in the auto industry, natural gas vehicles have been a favorite of cities and corporate fleets due to their low maintenance and fuel costs. A new batch of data about compressed natural gas (CNG) cars from Pike Research says that by the end of 2013, there will be almost 125,000 CNG vehicles plying U.S. roads, compared to about 65,000 plug-in hybrids.

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mrjames1818
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Wish that there was more CNG model choices.
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Good article Skb69sa! Thanks for posting!
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They've been here for at least 15-20 years.
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Flex-fuel vehicles have been using CNG for a decade. This is not new technology.
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Bring em on!!
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Should be there as an option.
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I would be interested in a cng vehicle. As to the lack of fuel stations, I have it on good authority that there were no gasoline stations available in the 1800's. Build it and they will come. A home system will also be a possibility with a decent filter system. Also a switchable gasoline fuel system would make an attractive option
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better luck this time.
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since Honda does not recommend at home fueling (due to water/dirt issues in home natural gas) and the range is only 140-160 miles, this is a niche market only!
Get ranges equivalent to existing vehicles with home refuel capability (electric or CNG) then the extra $10,000+ per vehicle might make a 10 year payback!
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controversy
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Infrastructure will take the most planning.
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natural gas is been out there a while in testing in fleet vehicles so station were installing storage areas already.....
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can ng be used to operate equipment that compresses ng?
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If there were more pubic refuelling stations there would be more
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I've experienced just one BLEVE so far in my lifetime--I suspect OSHA is providing "overwatch" on this process--a reasonable thing and I trust local emergency crew are routinely trained....
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Fill time for a CNG vehicle would be much shorter than the recharge time for an electric vehicle and most cities already have natural gas systems in place so your local stations would just need to hook up to the existing mains and add compressors.
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Lot of the same advantages as propane power
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The fact is USA is far behind in technology and infrastructure for Natgas Vehicles .. Even Pakistan and India are far ahead in this area. We can hide behind EPA or some other regulation but Natgas is very good as fuel as we dont need to refine it or change it , all it needs is compress to put it in cars.
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OK, I'll just eat more beans and cabbage!
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Great for vehicles that don't do long trips
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OK, I don't see a controversy. Anyone?
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Controversy is alive and well with these idiot authors of this type article..........................
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OK
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CNG vehicles would be good if the fuel is plentiful.
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why not?
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There should be no controversy! What? The controversy is that the government support the survival of the industry? That it is more successful than the Volt or ethanol, both of which are dependent upon government funding?
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"With no flashy government programs to support them"

Quiet, don't give them ideas!
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Hybrid idea is not a solution. Just a bandaid.
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It doesn't have the liberals approval.
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About time CNG starts to take off. The units out there. the cheaper it will get for all of us that want one.
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I WANT TO GET A NATURAL GAS POWERED BARBECUE GRILL, BUT THE COST IS LIKE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS JUST TO DO INSTALLATION....SUCKS
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"With no flashy government programs to support them".... that's the best news yet.
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Heating with NG will go up if the demand increases.
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GM and Ford listen to the needs of the Governors and Mayors pitching for natural gas vehicles for their states and cities.
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I still contend this will drive up the price of heating gas.
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Rolling compressed bombs is what they are.
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Need more stations.
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Niche solution just like the electrics are
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This relates to gas prices how????
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I would love to have one. Problem is no place around to fill it up. We need to build up the info structure to fuel them. This would help keep the gas usage in the US and away from OPEC.
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Natural gas cars are not on the radar of the current administration and, as such, gets no tax support or other incentives for their production and sales.
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we'll see
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